Curse

Charlatan · Jun 06, 2005, 02:27 PM // 14:27

Yeah, we fought a GvG battle last night where half the other team carried Vengeance. So the obviously knew it was bugged - and indeed, the rezzed players didn't die after 30 seconds, as they should.

Kindof makes GvG battles pointless if people are going to cheat in this way, at least until it's fixed.

Xellos · Jun 06, 2005, 07:19 PM // 19:19

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Originally Posted by Charlatan

Yeah, we fought a GvG battle last night where half the other team carried Vengeance. So the obviously knew it was bugged - and indeed, the rezzed players didn't die after 30 seconds, as they should.

Kindof makes GvG battles pointless if people are going to cheat in this way, at least until it's fixed.

Vengeance back. Nothing's stopping you from using it. That and if you shatter the 30 second enchantment, I'm pretty sure they still fall right?

Charlatan · Jun 06, 2005, 07:37 PM // 19:37

I believe the concensus is that the enchantment isn't being placed on people, so there's no enchant to shatter. They just get rezzed, with no death penalty, and don't die after 30 seconds.

As for Vengeancing them back... well, I didn't have the spell loaded, so that wouldn't work.

Plus.... you're pretty much saying fight an exploit with an exploit? That kind of behavior doesn't appeal to me, sorry.

Syklone · Jun 06, 2005, 10:19 PM // 22:19

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Originally Posted by Xellos

That and if you shatter the 30 second enchantment, I'm pretty sure they still fall right?

Why not test it and come back with the facts. Taking a guess is not a good thing to do 'right' ?

BBrecht · Jun 06, 2005, 11:26 PM // 23:26

I can distinctly remember two occasions on which I've been revived with Vengeance, and was not enchanted by it, nor did I die after the thirty seconds. Come to think of it, these are the only times that Vengeance has been used on me.

More extensive tests are required, obviously, but every report I've heard is that Vengeance is currently bugged.

Leighis Dileas · Jun 07, 2005, 02:05 AM // 02:05

Yeah Vengeance is definately bugged. It currently does not work as an enchantment, so it can neither be removed/shattered nor does it expire.

And of course more and more people get to know about it by now. Lost in HoH on our initial 1vs1 yesterday because they just kept rezzing people with vengeance - full health, mana and no death penalty when they die again.

On our tombs run today we met two teams who used it. One of them was a guild who shortly afterwards won the HoH - I wonder why ....

This better be fixed soon cause theres already many groups running around using it by now and it is quite obviously ruining PvP gameplay.

~Leighis Dileas
The Wrong Guild [TWG]

Caco-Cola · Jun 07, 2005, 02:34 AM // 02:34

Yep, ran into this earlier today.

Saw some Koreans using it (surprise surprise) and me and this other guy were telling our team that it was bugged and they didn't die after 30 seconds.

I don't think they believed us, but we still won so I guess it doesn't matter.

But yes it's definately bugged and definately needs fixed.

DarkAynjil · Jun 07, 2005, 01:46 PM // 13:46

Yesterday, I re-specced my E/Mo to protection prayers after a Mo/R left our group. I ran Rebirth and Vengeance for a quick-res if a tank or monk fell.... My vengeance never expired, the chars never fell after that (except to having their butts kicked by the other team.) Something is DEFINITELY up with vengeance. That's ok though, A-Net has been pretty quick to address issues and bugs, I'm sure this will be addressed soon as well.

HED · Jun 07, 2005, 07:13 PM // 19:13

One of my guildmates is reporting that Vengeance works only half of the time. Sometimes Vengeance does work and the rezzed char dies after 30 secs . Sometimes it doesn't work and the rezzed char is still alive after 30 secs and no Divine Intervention

Jia Xu · Jun 08, 2005, 02:16 PM // 14:16

after going away and trying it, in PvP i have yet to see vengeance fail to kill someone after the thirty seconds without something external being used (reversal of fortune, divine intervention etc.) however, my guildmates insist that occasionally it doesn't attach as an enchantment once the player has been ressurected. This means of course that they won't die after the thirty second timer expires, so more experimentation is required to see why this enchant doesnt attach all the time.

Zorque · Jun 08, 2005, 02:54 PM // 14:54

I use it in PvE on my monk as the only res on my bar. It has always been a consistant bug for me. I've never had anyone die once after casting it on them. Although once they fix it and someone dies mid-mission they aren't going to be too happy with me, haha.

uigrad · Jun 09, 2005, 04:07 PM // 16:07

Ok, there was a patch yesterday. Has anyone tried vengeance since the patch?

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Edit: According to the patch notes, it has been 'fixed'. Here's the text:

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* Fixed skills Vengeance and Unyielding Aura so that the effects after resurrection work properly again. These skills were inadvertently broken by last week's update.

XenophonTheElder · Jun 10, 2005, 03:31 PM // 15:31

I've used Vengeance since the patch. It has been fixed. Still useful, just no longer a full replacement for resurrection (or rebirth).